Question:
Do you think that founding secret document in the trains ( LONDON/UK) twice was a deliberate act?
anonymous
2008-06-15 10:35:09 UTC
* It is hard to believe that, it is coincident to leave secret documents on the various trains, on different dates!
* Specially after the 1st incident, which supposed to make all government staff more careful, so the 2nd similar event took place!
** I believe that, both events were done delibrately by certain people to undermine this government, which is already undermined itself before those events!
Eleven answers:
anonymous
2008-06-15 10:38:36 UTC
Oh, here we go, another conspiracy theory. Face it, the government and civil service are suffering considerably under the mis-management of Nu Layber.





Edit: Yes, I do.
rogerglyn
2008-06-15 10:58:06 UTC
These papers were left by people who are charged with our security.



I cannot see that the lapses can be to undermine the present Government.



And indeed, all the Government has to do is to treat the lapses seriously; which they appear to have done.



So no, I cannot see that it would work.



This is more the idiocy of bloated self important incompetents who should not be working in any area, other than toilet cleaning (not toilets in the Government either).



They obviously took the papers home to be seen with them, so that people could witness with wonder how ''Jolly Important'' they are.



The Government is well covered by policies; in as much as the items found should not under any circumstances be taken home.



My understanding is that they were found in 'Internal Mail' envelopes.



Therefore, I feel that it must be more of an Employment question.



''Should the Imbeciles who lost these items even be employed?''.



My feelings too are that could also lose their P45 on a train, but that wouldn't show how important they are would it.



However, what will happen is that the morons will have a nice long holiday on full pay whilst an investigation takes place, they will also be given severance pay and remain on the pensions listing to keep them quiet (after all they may know too much to be just sacked). Plenty of Newspapers would buy their memoirs.



Where-as the average ''Joe'' in private industry would be sacked out of hand.
?
2008-06-15 11:40:38 UTC
No I do not think it is a deliberate act, I think it was down right carelessness. Good grief what were they doing taking secret documents on a flipping train for! If it needed to be transported to another office then get a taxi, but really the papers should never have left the office.

In this day and age of paperless offices, all the info should have been on computers. Come to think of it, someone lost some confidential information discs as well on train. To answer your question I just think this country is going to the dogs and secret or confidential information does not mean anything to the civil servants who deal with it.

I think the people who have lost them on the train should be taken to task for it, but they are civil servants and nothing will be done. We will just wait for the next announcement about lost documents.
anonymous
2008-06-15 11:28:50 UTC
It's always possible that someone is trying to draw attention to the Government's own lack of interest in security particularly as these breaches have coincided with the 42 days detention vote.

If so, it's wickedly irresponsible. Perhaps it's time that the Beardies in the Home Office were cleared out.
?
2016-11-07 04:52:09 UTC
i think of it is a backlash against the Labour occasion, specially the cabinet, as their popularity has dropped dramatically scince September. somebody interior the government in all probability needs to cause them to look worse, probable a intense up civil servant (who can not take any accountability for their strikes). that's intense yet possible, as they might propose the PM, and get on the edge of those documents. i detect it appauling that they have got lost 2 contraptions of documents that are significant to safety in a week on trains. and then October 2007 they lost different documents as properly. properly executed Labour occasion, the integrity has long gone.
shafter
2008-06-16 01:08:28 UTC
Fishy!!! However, if these documents were so secret why have the papers been able to print anything about them but just handed them straight back without informing the public.



Did the public need to know about ANY info those so called secret papers contained.



http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/pol...



All hoo-haa and red herrings.



So is this a crime and why hasnt the person/s been named. I bet we never hear who they r.
anonymous
2008-06-15 13:58:33 UTC
Oh yes....

Its so the gov can save more money,the tabloids get the scope by investagating they pass it to the cops that way ther half of there wok is completed by the papers avery front page is a big add for free..

save money in our security thats bad! they take enough of it, So spend it on protecting us.
Ray B
2008-06-15 11:17:17 UTC
These people should be sacked and tried for treason.This is only ones that get reported,what else dont we know about
emmi
2008-06-15 14:34:40 UTC
It seems very likely. Nobody could be THAT stupid ...mind you ...errrr
anonymous
2008-06-15 14:22:38 UTC
totally agree with you.
Rosebud
2008-06-15 10:51:08 UTC
Yes I think your right on target there. I agree with what you are saying


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