Question:
Israel? Mid East/Arab troubles all down to them?
2006-11-23 08:41:18 UTC
Strikes me as strange that people think so. Whatever your opinions regarding the israel-palestine issue, what have they to do with: The islamic revolution in iran 1979. the iran-iraq war, iraq's invasion of kuwait, civil war in yemen, civil war in algeria, darfur, civil war in south sudan,rise of baathism(neo fascism) in iraq & syria, civil war in western sahara, kurds war with turkey etc? Nothing Methinks!!
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2006-11-23 08:49:21 UTC
Exactly. Islamic fanatics have been fighting all over the place wanting this and that. Their mission is to convert the world to their religion, fanatics have stated this. Israel just gets the blame because they are in the middle of it all and are a country prepared to fight for their right to survive. I think if a lot more people actually read the facts on the history (and I mean back to the 1800's, not 1960's) of Israel/Palestine they would be a lot less judgemental instead of believing what's in the news and papers.
halifaxed
2006-11-23 09:35:23 UTC
Most of the items you mentioned are the outcomes of deeper feelings among Muslims. (One could ignore the Iran-Iraq war and the invasion of Kuwait which were Saddam's bid to acquire more oilfields, ignore the Kurds' bid for autonomy from Turkey and the civil war in South Sudan and Darfur which is also about autonomy for the non-Muslim region).



The other matters are because of a desire by Muslim people for less secular and more religiously biassed governance. The 1979 revolution in Iran was a popular reaction against the regime of the Shah. It established an Islamic state. The civil war in Yemen tried to do the same. The civil war in Algeria, supported by France, was because an Islamic party won the election and the government annulled the election result.



The pan-Islamic movement dates back to the 1920s when the Ikhwan (Muslim Brotherhood) became more active in response to the Balfour Declaration of 1918 that proposed a homeland for Jews in Palestine. , Palestinians became alarmed at the number of Jewish immigrants in the 1920s who had been encouraged by the Balfour Declaration. Arabs who had lived there peacefully alongside Jews for centuries found themselves pushed aside.



The Ikhwan 's objectives until then had only been to encourage the notion that all Muslims were one family. In the 1920s, it became more active in seeking the same kinds of privileges that were being granted to Jews through pressure by the Zionist movement. This notion of a worldwide, Islamic union has now become quite prevalent and is visible in many past and present, so-called Islamic fundamentalists, Baathism and in some terrorist organisations.



The Zionists continued pressure on world powers is obvious. Hence, we get the Iraq and Afghanistan situations from the UK and the US in which hundreds of thousands of innocent Muslims are slaughtered every year. The Israel-Palestine conflict is a disgrace owing to the USA's unquestioned support of every Israeli atrocity. Muslims, feeling as one family, see western powers as the causes of the endless slaughter of innocents for land-grabbing Israelis and oil-hungry westerners.



Does that answer your question?
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2016-10-04 11:05:15 UTC
generalize plenty? if that's basically a "little spot" on the map, why do israelis prefer it plenty? Israel does not nuke the midsection east, cuz the fallout might kill Israel. The Arab international places had to rely on Soviet Union for help in the time of chilly conflict, and Israel became into US best chum so it have been given the superb US weapons, airplanes, and such. the only different midsection jap international places that benefitted from American militia technologies plenty have been Turkey and Iran.
2006-11-24 04:58:06 UTC
The current PLO and Arab claim (and mainstream media regurgitation of it) is indeed a very distorted version of `recorded history' and can only qualify as pure Orwellian propaganda. In fact, putting aside all the myths and propaganda, the only area that would qualify historically as truly Arab land, is the Arabian desert peninsula. Unfortunately, it seems that Goebbels was correct in stating that if a lie were repeated often enough, it would come to be "perceived" as truth.



Palestinian leaders claim that Israel is built on Arab land, when the truth is that eyewitnesses such as Mark Twain and Rev. Manning of England who visited the Holy Land in the last century wrote that the land was barren and empty. The population then was less that 5% of today's population.



In fact, the return of the Jews in 1800's and early 1900's created jobs and Arabs from impoverished areas were drawn into the Holy Land for work. Peters also tells us that in 1948 so many Arabs were new to the area and could not qualify for the UN requirement for refugee status (people forced to leave "permanent" or "habitual" homes) that they added a clause permitting refugee status for Arabs who had been there as little as two years.



Thus the Zionist slogan "The Land without a people for the people without a land" was absolutely correct. The slogan did not mean that there were no inhabitants at all in Palestine; it just indicated that the non-Jewish population constituted a conglomeration of dozens of heterogeneous groups of residents having very little in common, i.e. not constituting a single nation, a people. These residents were not united by any specific national idea. Parkes wrote that the Balfour declaration for the first time established a "unit called Palestine on a political map. ...There was no such thing historically as a 'Palestinian Arab', and there was no feeling of unity among 'the Arabs' of this newly defined area".



No doubt, some Arabs have lived in the area of the Mandate of Palestine for many centuries, but not as many of them as had the Jews. What is more, Jews had lived in Arab lands since times preceding Islam itself. And yet, these Jews in Arab lands were never regarded as citizens of the Arab lands they lived in and were unceremoniously expelled in the years subsequent to Israel's establishment. In other words, residency alone did not confer national rights on those who inhabited an area. Nor did it make a people out of congeries of Arabs and other nationalities that had come to the area of the Mandate of Palestine while the Jewish people were restricted. The nations of the world recognized this after World War I when the League of Nations determined that the geographical area called Palestine was to become a homeland for the Jewish people, the people that had been continuously associated with this land since ancient times when it was known as Judea and Samaria.
First Ascent 4 Thistle
2006-11-23 11:44:01 UTC
Israel has the right idea - fight back!!

The best form of defence is to attack and they do not stand for suicide bombers and the like. An eye for an eye, and no namby pamby people bleating on about human rights and other insignificant rubbish.



Alot of fanatics use Israel as a reason for terrorist activities, then they use Iraq, then persecution, then veils, then cartoons, then the pope's comments, then British foreign policy -

The goal posts are always shifting - I don't think They even knoiw what they want, but fear creates power. And they like power considering that in Britain they are less than 2% of the population!



These people ask for a Jihad, I think it is time we respond by giving them just that and sorting this problem once and for all.
Mr Slug
2006-11-23 10:50:19 UTC
Seems like were trying to pick the best of a bad bunch, but I would expect Israel to respect International Law, there are 65 UN Resolutions held against Israel which have yet to be fulfilled. Much responsibility on Israel to co-operate with the International community.
jj26
2006-11-23 08:52:54 UTC
I was pretty ignorant about global politics until a few years ago when i was told how Israel came into existance and i was shocked and appaled. When someone told me they just rolled in and kicked the palestinians out i couldn't believe it. And back then they were the terrorists, killing the british soldiers trying to police this invasion. When do you stop being a terrorist. When you form a government and do the paper work? They rant about how it was their land 2000 years ago. C'mon! Lets all move back where we came from 2000 years ago shall we. Im sure no one will mind (sarcasm)



The solution: get rid of religion. Believe in yourself and not some thing you are told to believe in.



Why do i get the feeling that the people disagreeing with what i say are yanks. You guys seem to feel the need to stick up for them whatever they do. Like shooting those two women in the back.
AndyPandy
2006-11-23 09:51:13 UTC
Don't forget the Bali Bombing where 202 people were killed by Islamic extremist and more than 200 were injured.
Ahmad
2006-11-24 11:40:49 UTC
I agree with Trigga 1 uk
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2006-11-23 08:58:03 UTC
And if we ignored the plight of and suffering of other races that to would be wrong. Me i wish we would let all of them go to hell were they seem determined to go, and stop wasting our young mens blood trying to save there worthless arses
2006-11-23 08:53:00 UTC
nor the bombing of a shopping centre in argentina by islamists several years ago. The israel/arab argument just doesnt wash with me, it's all about islamic fascists wanting global control.
2006-11-24 00:02:39 UTC
The three monkeys in pictures that expose they were the ones making a mess for themselves in planet of apes.

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At loss they were blindly following The Mummy from the graveyards with the Piped Piper's tune of "My Way" in planet of apes.

Real jokers out there in kicking their own butts in making a monkey out of themselves happily singing "For he's a jolly good felllow" in following The Mummy back to their early graves in planet of apes.

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The blunders and slip-ups with human errors created back in the past being expose with time in planet of apes.
zionistequalsnazi
2006-11-23 09:22:51 UTC
It's all the Israeli zionists doing they spread there evil all over the world not just one place.


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